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03 Feb 2025 – Sharesies (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by Panamitsu (t · c); see discussion
31 Jan 2025 – Kaiapoi Pā (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by Cloventt (t · c); see discussion
24 Jan 2025 – Inky (octopus) (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by Panamitsu (t · c); see discussion
17 Jan 2025 – Cave Rock, Sumner (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by Cloventt (t · c); see discussion
15 Jan 2025 – Allbirds (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by Oganguly (t · c); see discussion
13 Jan 2025 – French Letter (song) (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by Turnagra (t · c); see discussion
12 Jan 2025 – Henry (tuatara) (talk · edit · hist) was nominated for DYK by Panamitsu (t · c); see discussion

Articles for deletion

07 Feb 2025 – Christopher Winchester (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by TheSwamphen (t · c); see discussion (3 participants)
07 Feb 2025 – Anton Tennet (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by TheSwamphen (t · c); see discussion (3 participants)
07 Feb 2025 – Lara Custance (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by TheSwamphen (t · c); see discussion (5 participants)
06 Feb 2025 – Rafe Custance (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by TheSwamphen (t · c); see discussion (5 participants)
30 Jan 2025 – ADInstruments (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Jfire (t · c); see discussion (1 participant; relisted)
20 Jan 2025 – Oruru-Parapara (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Traumnovelle (t · c); see discussion (6 participants; relisted)
31 Jan 2025 – Mark Holt (talk · edit · hist) AfDed by Cloudz679 (t · c) was closed as delete by Liz (t · c) on 07 Feb 2025; see discussion (7 participants)
28 Jan 2025 – Tania Neill (talk · edit · hist) AfDed by JayCubby (t · c) was closed as redirect by Liz (t · c) on 04 Feb 2025; see discussion (8 participants)
27 Jan 2025 – Jonty Bidois (talk · edit · hist) AfDed by Geschichte (t · c) was closed as draftify (deleted) by CipherRephic (t · c) on 03 Feb 2025; see discussion (7 participants)
25 Jan 2025 – Masport (talk · edit · hist) AfDed by Patre23 (t · c) was closed as keep by Benison (t · c) on 01 Feb 2025; see discussion (6 participants)

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Proposed deletions

06 Feb 2025 – Wellington Tornadoes (talk · edit · hist) was PRODed by Turnagra (t · c): No evidence of notability or independent sources covering the subject itself, organisation also appears to be defunct.

Categories for discussion

05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after universities and colleges in New Zealand (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after political parties in New Zealand (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after organisations based in New Zealand (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
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05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after New Zealand musical groups (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after New Zealand musicians (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after New Zealand television shows (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after New Zealand awards (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after New Zealand people (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion
05 Feb 2025 – Category:Wikipedia categories named after New Zealand politicians (talk · edit · hist) was CfDed by LaundryPizza03 (t · c); see discussion

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04 Feb 2025 – Template:Christchurch mosque shootings sidebar (talk · edit · hist) was TfDed by Gonnym (t · c); see discussion

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24 Jan 2025 – Tauhei (talk · edit · hist) →Whitikahu was RfDed by Traumnovelle (t · c); see discussion

Aotearoa New Zealand virtual Wiki meetup

Just letting everyone know the next Aotearoa New Zealand Online Wiki Meetup is on at 12pm tomorrow, Sunday 5 January NZST. Get more details here Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa_New_Zealand_Online/57. Hope to see you there! Ambrosia10 (talk) 23:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

National Parks project update

Ngā mihi o te tau hou e te whānau! About this time last year I suggested a collaboration on improving the articles on our national parks, with the goal of getting them all to GA standard. That turned into the WPNZ national parks collaboration, which has seen some great progress on some of the articles in that time - Aoraki Mount Cook National Park is now GA, Tongariro National Park is about to go up for review, and Kahurangi National Park has increased in size more than 10 times over from where it was at the start of last year. Unfortunately life had a few curveballs for me (as I'm sure it did for a lot of you, too) so I wasn't able to be as involved as I was hoping, and there's still a fair bit of work to be done. I'd love to keep work going on this if people are keen and will try to be a bit more involved myself, but feel free to head over to the project page or ask any pātai below if you've got them! Turnagra (talk) 20:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should we have automatic archiving of this notice board?

We have just had bold manual archiving after (I think) 4 months and then had it reverted as going too far in how recent archived posts were. Most pages like this have (I think) automatic archiving. Various parameters can be set, e.g. archive threads 60 days after the last contribution; keep at least the last 5 threads (even if they are past the age param). Settings something like that should strike a happy medium between the page getting too big, and being too hasty in archiving. Not to mention saving a bit of manual effort. Nurg (talk) 02:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

YES. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 02:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've been archiving the page every four months for the last four years or so, simply because there wasn't automatic archiving and nobody else was doing it (the page had gotten to about 18 months of content before my first one). I'm happy to have this done automatically, but if I'm being honest I hate the pages where the archives are full of pages with just one or two topics. If we're going this route, I'd be keen to see it done in a way that manages to avoid that somehow. Turnagra (talk) 04:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really familiar with how it works but I think the 'maxarchivesize' param not only stops an archive page getting bigger than that setting, but also means that the archive will get that big before starting a new archive page. Nurg (talk) 05:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ōtautahi Christchurch meetup this weekend!

Reminder that this weekend we are having a Christchurch meetup! 10am on Sunday at Foundation café in the ground floor of Tūranga. Anyone based in Ōtautahi is welcome to come along. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 01:38, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Oscar Goodman (basketball) is getting the kiss of death

I don't know if any of you knows of any interesting factoids about Oscar Goodman (basketball) or has any good argument as to why it should get a DYK run, but it is about to be timed out due to lack of enthusiasm by the various reviewers. The article has been edited by a disproportionate number of Kiwis and I bet none of them had even heard of him.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:58, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think if he were American, his article would have been slapped in at DYK without an issue.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:59, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The problems with that are that the hooks aren't that interesting. It's not some pro-American bias or a lack of enthusiasm from the reviewers there. By the way the "disproportionate number of Kiwis" you mention is because several people look through the new articles list and make minor edits. ―Panamitsu (talk) 10:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Year articles

I think we might need to establish an inclusion criteria for the year articles (e.g. 2024 in New Zealand) because they're quite long. The way I'd like to look at it is that we should only keep the stuff that are at least mildly interesting in say 100 years time. Here are some common themes that we might want to have removed from these articles:

Car crash (unless they're notable, e.g. has an unusually large amount of deaths/injuries or a notable person is injured/killed)
Court cases unless they're nationally notable. Un-notable in 2024 in NZ: "John Hope Muchirahondo is convicted of 17 counts of rape and sexual assault following a two months trial." Notable example: Make It 16 Incorporated v Attorney-General
Layoffs (unless it's a large percentage of a company's, e.g. a third of staff are laid off)
GDP/OCR figures (unless it's enter/exit recession or OCR hasn't been updated in a long time or something)

―Panamitsu (talk) 10:34, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've also been thinking about going through the year articles and adding images. I've added three to 2024 in New Zealand but most year articles don't have images in them (apart from images of people). Does anyone oppose this? ―Panamitsu (talk) 10:36, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriate. And I agree with your suggested inclusion criteria. Schwede 66 17:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've always had problems with year articles because they're almost never sourced to some sort of 'notable things in X year' type source but instead to a source about the event itself which often results in completely non-notable events getting added.

A source somewhat after the event occurred helps establish long term notability and would be a good inclusion criteria. Some events don't even seem to be mentioned elsewhere on Wikipedia such as 'Over 200 New Zealand Defence Force civilian employees opt for voluntary redundancy as part of a restructuring plan' which only appears to be mentioned in the timeline article.

I am removing all the named convictions of non-notable figures for arguably being BLP violations, seems undue to put some non-notable person's conviction in what is supposed to be an article on important events. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:57, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How about just removing the name of the perpetrator for the rather notable Murder of Yanfei Bao case? That is an obvious candidate for a year page. Schwede 66 20:05, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would've just removed the name but her case is already mentioned. I'm not opposed to restoration of the conviction without the name if you believe two mentions are merited. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For other notability issues, my instincts say if an event wasn't notable enough for an article (or at least a strong mention in one), then it's not notable enough for the year article. Acknowledging, of course, that some redlinks may be needed while the article waits to be written.

Certainly some events seem to be over-mentioned. I'd be happier with one mention per event with it appearing on the most significant date. For example, the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti would be on the day it arrived at Parliament with the text "… having set out from Bluff and Cape Reinga 8 days earier on 11 November." Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:53, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a general rule of thumb, remember the 10/20-year test: will this event still be notable in 10 or 20 years' time? An event doesn't necessarily have to have its own article to be notable enough for the year article, especially for events that are "firsts" in New Zealand and we take for granted today - international jet travel (1963), domestic jet travel (1968), subscriber toll dialling and McDonald's (1976), in-vitro fertilisation (1984), unleaded petrol and mobile phone service (1987), etc.Lcmortensen (mailbox) 05:14, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand reptiles distribution maps

I'm not sure if there are any fans of reptiles here, but I've created distribution maps for all NZ reptiles. They're available on Commons. Unless someone feels enthusiastic and can help by adding them to articles, I'll gradually do it myself. Cheers, Podzemnik (talk) 08:52, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing, great work! I'm happy to try and help add some at some point if I find time, will see how I get on. Turnagra (talk) 09:11, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, awesome. I suggest you add some categories for the parent category, Podzemnik. Schwede 66 08:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by the parent category? Each map should be placed in its species/genus category and a category for distribution maps. The category I linked is a hidden user category, which is part of another hidden user category - i.e., a category not visible to most users. Podzemnik (talk) 17:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ESEAP Conference Survey request from Wikimedia Taiwan

Joyce from Wikimedia Taiwan, would like Aotearoa New Zealand Wikimedians to complete a survey about the next ESEAP Conference to be held in Taiwan in May 2026. She says the survey is required before sending out the Conference Grant, so they would like to collect as much feedback as possible.

Survey Link: (deadline on 22nd)[1]https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeUZIk_yo5IPc7CL8IWfbkUJ9qWIYzYjBIQgra2d8ESGYvPUg/viewform

Many thanks CopperAlchemy (talk) 23:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tāmaki Makaurau Auckland Meetup: 18 January at 10:00AM

The next Tāmaki Makaurau Auckland meet-up is being held tomorrow on 18 January at 10:00AM, at Samoa House on Karangahape Road. Additional details can be found on the meet-up page here: Wikipedia:Meetup/Tāmaki Makaurau Auckland 31. Feel free to come along! -- Dactylantha (talk) 01:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Year in New Zealand articles

May I change "Head of state" to "Monarch", in 2025 in New Zealand & proceeding Year articles? GoodDay (talk) 15:00, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup: 2 February at 12:00PM

The next Aotearoa New Zealand Online #Wiki Meetup is on TODAY at 12pm, Sunday 2 February 2025 NZST.

Get more details here 👇

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa_New_Zealand_Online/58 David Nind (talk) 18:52, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves for NZ local government regions and districts

Those who follow this page are probably aware that articles on local government regions and districts are having 'Region' and 'District' decapitalised. This has already been done for the regions. Support for that was 2–0, with no input from NZ editors. Three districts are now proposed, with support currently 2–0 again. I have contributed to the discussion, but otherwise there is no input from NZ editors. That's totally fine if everyone has no objection (silent support or silent no-opinion is fine). If the change for the three districts passes, I expect that the other 50 districts will also be changed – it would be illogical for them not to be. So if anyone does want to express an opinion, now is the time. I have not settled on an opinion myself. I had thought more people might contribute and provide more food for thought, but never mind. Anyway, I just didn't want to assume that regular NZ editors were already aware of the discussions and just choosing not to participate, so this is a heads-up just in case. Nurg (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements to the Heritage Designation templates for NZ Articles

Kia ora, I am proposing an update to the Template:Designation template which is used to populate information in infoboxes about historic places listings. The current NZ-related bits of the template are quite out-of-date, as they don't include the newer categories supported by Heritage New Zealand (Historic Areas, Wāhi Tapu, Wāhi Tapu Areas and Wāhi Tūpuna).

You can see the proposal here: Template talk:Designation#Edit request 7 February 2025: Heritage New Zealand entries. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 00:03, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good on you! Schwede 66 00:36, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feijoa

Since feijoas are popular in NZ gardens for some reason and is often reported as being an NZ icon[2] should that article be part of WikiProject New Zealand? ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:22, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

totally TheLoyalOrder (talk) 06:53, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve added it to WPNZ. Schwede 66 09:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Heritage NZ accidentally blacklisted

Following on from a recent RFC which resulted in a completely unrelated source getting blacklisted, it seems that Heritage NZ's website has unfortunately been caught in the crossfire and is also tripping the blacklist filter, meaning that it can't be added to articles. I've asked for this to be fixed, but just a heads up in the interim in case anyone is as confused as I was when I tried to add a link this morning! Turnagra (talk) 19:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update: this has now been fixed. Turnagra (talk) 21:38, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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